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Dadless Podcast Group Ep. 35 - Feeling, Uncomfortable! w/ Hector Calderon
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This is the Dallas Podcast Group. I am the elder. This is HD. We're back. I'm back. We took a little hiatus. Things have happened, life happened. This was unexpected, to say the least. I will say that I have been networking since our you know, our little break that we've taken. I've had some time to kind of spend with myself. My main goal, hey, if we could get to 100, and that's fucking it. 100 follows 100 episodes No we're.
Speaker 1:I was like I think we're past, that We're past that We have like a very consistent following, okay, and we have a very like rabid following in Germany, which is fucking hilarious.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to think of a German word that I know, but I can't off the top of my head.
Speaker 2:I think it fits a niche Yeah it is a niche.
Speaker 1:The other day we had a family member come down and they were like Hey, what happened to your podcast? And I was like Hey, like life happened. And you know we're depressed and stuff. I was depressed.
Speaker 3:I was anxious.
Speaker 1:You were going to school, as you should Flowers to you, accept them lovingly. Sure, he was like Hey, like you guys should do that again. It's you know. It's neat that you guys are doing that. You know, maybe one day but the day's come, the day- has arrived.
Speaker 1:Have a nice little soft open. Like I said, i've been trying to do some networking just to get us out there. I've attended two Comic-Cons three Comic-Cons so far this year. although local and small, it is intimidating to fucking just go up someone and be like, hey, check us out and give them a sticker and give them more spiel, and you talk to them and try to like see what they're about. I'm not that type of person.
Speaker 3:I think you think that you're not, but you're actually really outgoing. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i want to tell you that, maybe, but I don't, like, outside of this space, like for work, i have to be that person. I have to insert myself into a certain zone and you know, make phone calls and knock at the door and you know, like just show up right outside of that, like I'm not, that I don't, i don't feel that way. Anyway, i don't feel that way, and so I am pretty happy that I've been able to do that. Yeah, because I'm like Hey, I see that you paint. I'm the elder. This is the Dallas podcast group. Here's a sticker. This is what we do. We don't paint. But, you do.
Speaker 3:Let's just put a happy little mountain, something about like that. Let's paint several little happy trees and push. Look at there.
Speaker 1:It's been a cool process. Yeah. It's also been really embarrassing. I had to just take this show on the road. You know what I mean. To be fair, the selvedon snake oil.
Speaker 3:I think that's cool, though, that you stepped out of your comfort zone and then you went to go. Do all that. It's been interesting.
Speaker 1:I've talked to a lot of fucking really cool people And I've had like a lot of real cool interactions and trading of like here's a sticker, oh, there's a business card, oh, this is a key chain. Oh you know, oh, this is a Yu-Gi-Oh card, this is a, this is a Babe Ruth rookie card. Every time and I will say selfishly, i go and I wear my fucking, like my DPG, fucking merch, and I go and like stick my chest out like this and make sure that my little fanny pack doesn't cover the logo. My tits are a little out, so like you can't throw it. What the fuck does that? A skin cells Ad-less? I'm like no, dadless, fuck The fuck. Does your shirt say You fat fuck? I'm like no, look, if I press them together you can see. But it's been cool. I've the one thing, though, i did. I had I've had one interaction and literally it goes like really enthusiastic, like kind of in the gray area where it's like okay, cool, sounds cool, awesome.
Speaker 3:I'll check it out.
Speaker 1:I'll check it out. I have. Most of them actually have been like really positive. Okay, they're like hey, cool, like hey, if you could come up to where I'm at, you know, and this and the other, i'm like okay, like that's maybe I can.
Speaker 3:What do you mean? Like go up and shoot like a show, like an episode?
Speaker 1:That's the one thing. And I'm like, hey, we're not that big unless you have a guy that can record, and then maybe. But I've had people like Hey, like I've worked, you know, up here, like in the Sacramento area, like if you come up and like we could talk, whatever, i'm like I might take you up on that. Why not? Not even might, like I would. I definitely would. If I have to go by myself, i don't care.
Speaker 3:Well, no, i think we should. We should definitely be more consistent with it.
Speaker 1:Some of the engagement is real cool, especially when you can get them like on certain like on certain aspects of what they're doing. Yeah. But the one like embarrassing engagement that I had. It was at the Lodi Comic Con. Which amazing Comic Con for being a local show. Yeah. Huge fucking venue And we're walking around and we're seeing everything and I'm chopping it up here and there like Hey, we have a show and fucking blah blah blah.
Speaker 1:Like I'll check it out, whatever I get the fuck out of here And I'm like all right, cool, sorry, you're holding up my line. I did. I felt bad for one guy held up this whole line. I didn't give a fuck, i was talking to it. I was like talking to him for a minute as homeboy wanted to chop it up And I was like I can talk to you, bitch Fucking guy right here. But I met an artist His name escapes me. I have his card in the house but he drew like very metal inspired. Like his art was very metal inspired. Come to find out like punk.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, like like metal, like heavy metal. Okay, i couldn't give you an example. I don't know if you was, i don't know if you know. Give me a bend Cannibal Corpse This is about? it's about shooting blood from your cock. Yeah, no.
Speaker 1:Okay. So I'm exactly what? the fuck don't waste my time, guy, come on. So I'm, you know, talking to him and I'm like, hey, like I really like what you're doing, like you know your artwork school and trying to like pitch the show to him and whatever. And I'm like you know it'd be cool to talk to you. And he's like, yeah, awesome, no, no, that was it, but his cadence was very flat, like he was. You could tell he's a very like soft spoken guy And it's fucking crazy because he's huge. My boy is obviously a bodybuilder outside of like what he's doing. Okay, do you know who Kai Green is? No.
Speaker 1:Kai Green is a is a competitive like bodybuilder, like think Mr Olympia, okay Massive, Yeah Fucking guy's huge. But turns out he's like a huge fucking nerd and he draws like comics and shit. So the guy, the comic con, is a big guy, but he has this little fucking like.
Speaker 1:Like the voice doesn't match the drawing for a few years, and his, he was hitting me with like one or two words, like I was talking to people and they're like Hey, that's pretty cool, where are you from? And I'm like we're, you know, based out of river bank, modesto area. Where are you from? Oh, hey, northern California, you know, till you talk back and forth, whatever. Yeah, he wasn't giving me shit, dude, nothing. He was deading a lot of like where I was trying to like catch him. I'm like Hey, like a lot of the stuff it reminds me of, like metal, yeah. And then he just stops and he's like Yeah, i like metal. What the fuck, dude? I'm like I'm trying to talk to you, yeah, and he's like Well, you have a nice day.
Speaker 3:He wasn't there for engagement man.
Speaker 1:He wasn't. He wasn't. He was even like in a back corner. Yeah, like just away from everybody.
Speaker 3:Is there for business Which is like I mean that's business. right Is networking, but not that kind of business, and it makes it fucking worse Cause.
Speaker 1:then here comes some guy like a normal Chad, walks away like your booth. And here's my stupid ass, like What have these stickers for?
Speaker 3:Give a fuck, It's cause you didn't take the hot dog sticker man.
Speaker 1:I did. That was the one that people were like hot dog. What do you mean? I was like Is it a? sandwich I don't know What do we do. It made me uncomfortable, yeah, and I was like All right, hey, fucking, we got to go See you.
Speaker 3:He's like Okay, see you later.
Speaker 1:I think there'll be moments. It really shit on the situation So far, though a lot of like real cool engagement and like fingers crossed. you know some of these people actually like listen.
Speaker 3:I mean, yeah, man, i think. I think, like you said, the things that we talk about, maybe Phil and Yash you know, especially in Germany. Shout out to the Germans I still have yet to go into any Comic Con. I need to.
Speaker 1:Funny enough, stocking con is coming up in July. Is it a weekend? It is a weekend, sack anime is coming up, and that's the big one. That's the one that I would like to go to. Okay, that one. The first time that I went was back when my hero was about to drop and the entire panel was there. They said, hey, this is Deku, this is, you know, nezuko, not part of my hero.
Speaker 3:What was that? Oh Chaku, yes, yeah, there you go, but those two.
Speaker 1:as far as like the comic cons go, i would like to go because locally stocking con shout out to stocking con is held in the stocking arena. Okay.
Speaker 1:It's two floors and it's you know big venue. It's popping. Yeah, you know it's cool. Sack anime is a fucking big one. It's held in like a huge convention center and they have panels and known people, people within the industry go and I think that's tight too. Last movie that I went to go see was the new Transformers movie, the Rise of the Beast. We're not talking about Optimus' dick, hey yup, we're not talking about that beast. You know, when I was a kid, like Transformers for me I guess like to try to equate it to anything is one of those franchises that I know I'd brought up to Jose in you know past conversation. I'm like these are franchises that have carried on with me and that are very endearing to me Mm-hmm, transformers, tmnt, power Rangers, any incarnation of them. To know that they're still going that there is a fan base.
Speaker 1:It's a cool feeling to know that, like more people know them. Think, uh, pokemon While you were a child. I was a fucking child, yeah, when this happened and it was uh, yeah, we saw it from. You know, grow into the phenomenon that it is. And then to now you know, within the same vein of Pokemon, to have it pass the torch, and you know Ash is no longer the main character, but now, it's this new character, two new characters.
Speaker 3:I can't think of their name off the top of my head, but it's two main characters.
Speaker 1:But to know that kids are still very into it, and I wouldn't say just kids, man, no, adults too, you know, i'm sure that there are adults that are going to stick with the series now. Yeah. Uh, critique it and be like this is my Pokemon.
Speaker 3:I hate that. I hate that so much. I'm only 151 when I grow up. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1:It's the same thing with Transformers. You know, initially I seen all the like the initial comments that came out on like uh, movie review sites. You know things like IGN, like things that I follow that I use, you know when, like when I'm looking for it to move these Uh-huh And people are, you know, giving their initial like two cents, leading into everything Like well this is what.
Speaker 1:I grew up, yeah, when I was a kid it was, you know, fucking you're like it's. It's not for fucking just us anymore. Dude Like this is bigger than us. This wasn't. They weren't specifically like Hey hobby, what I make Transformers. Rise of the beast.
Speaker 3:This is for you.
Speaker 1:This is for you. That ain't the case. You know They have. It has to apply to multiple demographics, ages, backgrounds. Everybody has to fucking enjoy it.
Speaker 3:Well, i think that's what you see with the whole like Disney thing right now, with like the disnification of like shows and stuff.
Speaker 1:You know, to bring the fucking around back to what I was saying anyway, Being in that setting and watching the movie, it really, for whatever reason, triggered a lot of like very positive feelings for me.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:To see certain references, to hear certain like key words that came up in the fucking movie, to see certain imagery, to see certain scenes, certain characters Run-offs to your maximize. I have these fucking moments when things like that happen and I'm like it made me feel fucking good. I'm sure there's a school of people that would you know, certain individuals that would turn around and do it. It's fucking pathetic. What are you? a baby?
Speaker 1:It's mid, whatever people want to say you know it meant a lot for me, like it took me back to being a kid, in a sense, and reacting to that same thing with that same wonder and enjoyment which I'm sure the filmmakers are like, hey, this is which I'm like. Okay, yeah, you know the I'm sure the acting I'm going to be on par. For some people The story won't be on par the. Whatever the fuck happens, it's a movie. I get it Fucking. Hey, you know that's not real. Well, yeah, hey, no, my fucking little, my little mid-size doesn't turn into a robot you know, Oh, you're just going to be the robot turns into that.
Speaker 5:What the fuck? You know it's okay. cars can't turn it. Your cars are an animal, okay.
Speaker 1:You know there's plenty of fucking qualms and shit like that Or like.
Speaker 3:I think people are overly critical, though I think, like, like you said, obviously I follow, like IGN, for example, and this I'll hate against IGN but I think they gave it what like a seven.
Speaker 1:They gave it a seven which, across the board I've seen nothing more than an eight And I feel like a seven was a very honest opinion on how it turned out. I'm like, okay, that's cool, i'm not going to tell you that it was a fucking 10.
Speaker 3:Well, no, not everything can be, Not everything can be. I get you know, understandably.
Speaker 1:I think for people that are in the know or that have knowledge of the source material or whatever it is, it didn't leave you with like a bad tasting. Yeah, not for me anyway, but that's my own individual fucking opinion.
Speaker 3:I think critics are just people that are like in bad moods.
Speaker 1:You know, you could compare it to like the Google metric, for, like the consumer metric was like a 96. Was that like the audience score? Just like the audience score Ron Tomatoes and like IMDb and stuff gave it, like you know, average. This is mid this is mid you know, and I can't argue that with you, Yeah, i can't. I take a lot of that shit into account. Right.
Speaker 1:I'm actually like very good about taking those things into account. Early reviews, you know. A big example is like the secret invasion, ign. Another seven came up, another seven. You know they're like, hey, it's fine. Okay, i'm going to argue with you. It's something that comes up for multiple franchises, different mediums. You know, recently, whatever the studio's name is they released that Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 3:Oh, gollum Man, I can't think of the studio right now. I'm not on my head. but that's fair, though, because the game did come out like really buggy.
Speaker 1:So in comparison to that, there was a game that came out. I want to say it's like Redfall, redfall.
Speaker 3:Yeah, on Xbox. I was looking forward to it. I do. I almost bought an Xbox because of it. Oh my Lord.
Speaker 1:And it received horrible, horrible, horrible fucking reviews. It tanked.
Speaker 3:So Microsoft, for like a long time now, has been dropping the ball and like exclusives. I guess Halo wasn't too good either, like the most recent one, but Starfield is the next big one. Have you heard of it?
Speaker 1:I haven't.
Speaker 3:Have you heard of No Man's Sky? It's kind of like that, but more story driven, and you're like a space ranger and you're looking for for some sort of MacGuffin, right, i don't know. The point is they're saying that that's slated to be the next big Microsoft game, but it's like in comparison to what? Because they don't really have much, like they let Redfall down, they let Halo or people down with Halo. I think the really big thing that they still have going for them right now, that's good. That is Forza and Game Pass.
Speaker 1:Game Pass. I will say as someone who has an Xbox Xbox especially Game Pass in the introduction of now utilizing the or not utilizing, but introducing the EA catalog as well, yeah, having to have that membership is fantastic. There's a lot of games in there that you know have come and gone, but then there are the games that stay there that luckily, like I've been able to keep. It's a cool thing for me, you know.
Speaker 3:And I think it gives you access to games that maybe you wouldn't be willing to pay full price for. but maybe you see a video of it and you're like I think that's cool, like I'll try it out to bring it around in full circle.
Speaker 1:That was going to be Redfall and it tanked as soon as it tanked, I was like well, there goes that The same thing for Golem to be fair, even Golem was looking kind of iffy from the start, in my opinion. I think where it sways. You is definitely in trailers. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I think trailers definitely sway you Well, media in general, like it could potentially look great, like I thought Doctor Strange was going to be fantastic. Which one? The newest one, but that's because I like Doctor Strange and the first one was great.
Speaker 1:So I will preface that, you know, I'll let you. you go off, kink I didn't mind it.
Speaker 3:And here's the thing It wasn't the worst either, like I'm not saying it was dark world status, because I still think dark world is the worst Marvel movie. Things in media recently have been made to look really good, but then it just, i don't know. It seems like empty calories at this point with certain things, like I remember that was me with Cyberpunk. I was so excited.
Speaker 1:Cyberpunk. I was definitely on that train because I was fresh off of like The Witcher, yeah, and I was 100% behind CDPR. I could say probably the same thing for Gearbox Okay, devoted, they won't do anything wrong.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's what I'm saying is like now, with using that as an example and carrying with that. Cyberpunk is great. I'm re-playing it right now because I'm watching Edrunners and it's dope. It's super cool. I'm on like episode five, but that's the thing is it's great. Now, years down the line, i just feel like, as an industry, like things have gone down in quality just to increase the quantity of what they're putting out.
Speaker 1:Where do we draw the line as far as media? Okay, tv and movies. Where does that take note as far as original IP? Because if you look at especially Get old Disney Plus Disney as an example, where I feel that there is a lack of original IP that they could be using, because I don't want to say that it's a lack of creativity. I'm sure that there are plenty of people there that could write an amazing fucking story.
Speaker 3:Yeah, i think it's nothing against the creators, right? Or like it's nothing against the artistry behind it, because, like you said, there's amazing people behind that, i'm sure.
Speaker 1:But if you notice the trend and I brought this up with you know shout out to Cortland Tyler, go check out his episode. I brought this up and well, he brought it up as well. The lack of original IP is that there is too much live action adaptations. I could honestly tell you, especially using it, as the latest example and you and I have talked about it before is now that it's officially, you know, available as the Little Mermaid. Yeah, i myself have. I have no interest in watching it, And it's nothing against the actress, it's nothing against the studio, it's nothing against like, hey, you know they're not, it's no race card, no race card. It's none of that. I have no interest in it. I would you know. I could say I'm a huge Star Wars fan. It's, and again, it's one of those franchises that I find very endearing and that I'm very invested in. But I don't give a fuck for more Star Wars adapted shows, mini series. I don't want to see more, you know, like the Mandalorian's fine, it's cool.
Speaker 3:But it's like, where do you draw the line?
Speaker 1:So a big one for me when it came up was the live action Lilo and Stitch. I have 100% no fucking interest in seeing that. I don't even care to humor the fucking idea of a live action adaptation of that. On the one hand, it's because of all the bullshit that comes with it. Well, this person isn't native enough And, you know, this character isn't old enough. I don't fucking care. Like it's getting too political. It is very political now And that's just because of, like, the climate that we live in, you know, super polarized, and we've talked about that plenty of times before. Just because it is, it is the arena in which we conduct ourselves now, which is fine, that's, you know, if you are in the know, it's, it's, it's almost a comparison to something that that, like the the Nomad and I talked about a while back. It's that wrestlers don't want to compete in the WWE because of the actions of Vince McMahon.
Speaker 1:You have to understand. This isn't the fucking seventies and eighties, or the sixties for that matter. People aren't in that same mindset. People are too educated and too in the know and too progressive to want to be associated with toxicity. You know what I mean. But to relate that to like the whole Disney idea, it's. It's just unfortunate that there's so much bullshit that has to come with the adaptation or with, you know, the idea of planning a reboot or a live action adaptation or you know anything within that line of, like media Right. I don't enjoy that. I really don't.
Speaker 3:I think there's two sides to that. So like, for example, the little mermaid, i have no interest in watching it just because I don't really care for the little mermaid. But I think it goes back to your whole Transformers argument, where it's like it's bringing in a new audience and that's great. But I feel like they could do that with a new IP, like frozen. When that came out, that was animated and it brought in a huge following, Princess and the Frog huge following, one of the best Disney film. But what I'm saying is like I feel like at this point, they're just doing it because it's a money grab, because I don't know if you heard, but they're making a new Moana, a live action Moana, and it's like that just came out in like 2016, 2017.
Speaker 3:Brand new movie. And it's like why Lilo and Stitch? that's okay for me because Lilo and Stitch is like my favorite Disney movie, like animated films or whatever, but like, even like Lion King, i was like whatever, like I watched it. But it's stuff where it's like I think that's the problem where it's like people say I'll watch it, i guess, and like, these filmmakers know that, like these companies know that, these corporations know that, because we live in such a consumerist society. That's all it is. It's consumerism, and I feel like if it wasn't for the fact that we just consume all this fucking media, i think it'd be different.
Speaker 1:So, in addition to that, would it be wrong to think like that? it's an issue of complacency. We become complacent as creators, not us, you know. Obviously I think we're fucking. We could probably make something pretty fucking cool, who knows? I'm pretty fucking sick. But to tack on to what you're saying, it's that we know that these people will fucking consume it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We know that we can create a toy line and a clothing line and this will be out in Disneyland And people will come in fucking droves and they'll want to see this new being queen that is out here swimming in the ocean. People are going to come to her because they're going to relate to her and they're going to see themselves in her. And we can use that to our advantage And, you know, we will market it as like this is representation, but really it's like this is fucking consumerism. Yeah, this is revenue for us and we're just going to build on. And now we're going to make the little mermaid too And we're going to fucking adapt that. And now I'm going to have you believe that fucking Haley Bailey is now, you know, an adult aerial and that she has this little brown skin daughter that wants to be a mermaid, just like her mom.
Speaker 1:And we're going to adapt that for everybody And we're going to get the fucking money back again And we're going to do a big hero six. And you want to see live action robots right, you guys just saw a fucking rise of optin. This is fucking dick right here on screen. And you want to see Baymax on fucking screen, and it's. When do we stop adapting shit? that's okay already. Yeah, that are established and that are fine. Like I want you to create something new. I want you to continue that same. Like not to be all fucking weird or whatever. Like these people come to you to create and to build worlds and to bring people into these places that they've never seen. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Why not build on that? Why not utilize that? Yeah. As opposed to being like okay, here's Sandra Bullock and she's, you know, the wicked witch or whatever. That's not Disney fucking related, but still it's you know.
Speaker 3:For me, i think, like I said, it's never about being politically correct or just correct based off of what's going on right now and in society. I think for me it's about creativity, and this is coming from someone that's like heavily invested into, like video games. For example, right before the last of us came out the show on HBO, they remade the last of us one, even though they already remade it not that long before and they were charging full price. They're charging like 60, 70 bucks, whatever It's like. You are remaking something twice over in the time span of a decade and we buy it. You know We buy. I didn't buy it, but I know the people that did and they said it was great. And I'm like, yeah, it was great the first time too, and the second time I'm sure it'd be great Third and the fourth and the fifth and the sixth. But people keep buying it And so we go back to the whole Moana thing, where it's like that just came out, that's a new movie.
Speaker 3:Why are you remaking that? Why not instead spend time? get the same cast if you want, for that movie, like it doesn't matter. If you want to do a live action thing, keep that same cast, but do an IP like a new IP, take some time, even if you got to take four or five years, but it's lasting, like all these other films before that, like Big Hero 6. Big Hero 6 was still great. I don't watch Baymax. I don't know if that was good. I've not seen that movie.
Speaker 1:It's not a movie, it's a show. No, no, no, the big hero 6.
Speaker 3:Get out of here. I still have not seen them. All right, thank you for watching. This has been the dadless podcast, but yeah, point is keep the same people. If you want, that's all fine and dandy, but make something new, make something creative, like the next big thing. I'm looking forward to Oppenheimer. I am stoked for Oppenheimer, but that's because I'm a Killian Murphy fan, like he's fucking legit.
Speaker 1:I don't knock you for that, because Killian Murphy is amazing. But here is something that I wanted to bring up, but I don't have enough info to pull from to kind of debate it or to speak on it too much in depth. I feel as though if a studio has enough time and has a team and has the money invested, they can make a movie out of anything, and this kind of touches on the same thing. We could have had an original story with Killian Murphy, as opposed to utilizing a historical event and constructing it in a way that is very cinematic and fucking profound and all this crazy shit. Next we're going to have whatever historical event.
Speaker 3:I could understand that, because that's very true. I mean, at that point you could just make a movie out of every historical event. But I feel like that's just something that I'm interested in, like I'm a big history guy and like I like all that shit. So I think that's why I'm looking forward to it, and on top of that it's a bunch of great actors and Josh Peck is in it and I have to watch it. While it might be based off of a historical event, like you said, at least it's something out of left field where, even though it's happened, at least we'll leave the theater, maybe thinking about it a little bit more and having something to talk about. Whereas Little Mermaid it's like I've seen it. To be fair, i haven't seen this one. Maybe it's new and whatever, but baseline worst thing is it brings in a new fan base of younger kids, and that's always a good thing. But for people that have already seen that as a young kid, maybe it's just not for us.
Speaker 1:I've recently fallen into a trend of watching original short films on YouTube. If you're a newer artist or a newer studio and you're trying to get your work out there, i'm trying to get us Something that a studio can invest into, build off of, you know, in lines of like an original IP. I've been watching a lot of short films and I'm like why aren't there more Investments?
Speaker 3:and stuff like this. It doesn't sell, it's not a big name.
Speaker 1:It's unfortunate Because I have so much more of an appreciation for, like the stories that are being written and then made, you know, for people to consume in this way, and I mean I know it's only like based in horror, yeah, which I'm like. The thing is we can only make so many horror movies based on like Ed and Lorraine Warren. Yeah there's only so many conjuring movies that could be made so many paranormal activities.
Speaker 1:You know, oh so many. I think the newest one that I'm interested in seeing is like is like there's a new insidious movie coming out At some point, and city's one was a banger, though It was amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was a great original story. Yeah, you know, and I get, that we are adding on to it and this also touches on, you know, the idea of like Universes, you know. That being said, i guess you know that it's not much. It's, it's an issue of Financing and backing, you know, to invest in these properties. It's unfortunate because a lot of these movies that I've seen, as short as they are, whether they're, you know, they're no let, they're no more than an hour, but they're fucking great dude, like the stories that people come up with, just they're great And it's like the time and the effort and the quality that they're putting out is fucking dope. But I mean, i guess that's maybe like a hard truth to it is that there just isn't like the interest to invest in them.
Speaker 3:Well, again it goes back to the whole. Like people don't care so much about the quality anymore. It's like how much of it can you have and how much of it can you run dry? I would rather have a movie like that.
Speaker 1:Like you know, the these short films that you're talking about I'm not a big horror guy, but I'd much rather have that than fast 10, part 2 and 3 you know, look at Ludacris did that interview recently where they asked him, like you know, about the movies and the Reactions that people have and he was like yo, like we make fucking billions off these movies, that doesn't matter if they fucking suck or if they're bad. Like we make fucking money off these, yeah, and so that's, i guess, to tie into that the idea, extended universes and In some cases, multi-verses. Conceptually are they bad for business are they bad?
Speaker 1:You know, I guess in like perpetuity. I seen a reel that connected hereditary to Midsummer, okay, well, yeah, it's the same.
Speaker 3:It's the same people behind it.
Speaker 1:They were like you know what makes you think that they're within the same universe, and it was one specific scene You don't notice it, okay, and they slowed it down and it's like, yeah, the couple from Midsummer, like Florence Pugh and the you know the whoever the actor is did this at this time. It's at this time and it's they're there in the scene and, you know, during this other separate film. It's a cool. Oh, that's the connection, that's the universe to tie that into. You know, like insidious or the conjuring, these are movie universes. All this shit is taking place like the conjuring is taking place within The accounts of Ed and Lorraine Warren.
Speaker 1:Yeah so this is all the bullshit that they did quote-unquote During their lifetime, but it's, you know, the same thing the conjuring it's all takes place, which I guess the conjuring it's like it makes a little more sense just because it's all whittled down to like one Specific focal point. Look at, like, the reactions that people have to Marvel movies, and it's specifically in these, in this last phase, that we've had a lot of the Marvel movies that we've seen in this multi-verse Now, in this universal franchise is I haven't been good.
Speaker 3:The reception has not been good and what has been good. Shang-chi right, that was pretty solid guardians.
Speaker 1:Guardians 3 was amazing. Guardians 3 was fucking Amazing. It was the continuation of their Specific universe, and what's going on with them? Mm-hmm. There were no other Avengers. It was tying up the loose ends of their story, right, and it was good in comparison to that which hey, shout out, respect and love Chadwick, black Panther 2 although it was tying up loose ends and it had its moments, it was underwhelming, i would say. I really liked it. I felt that it was underwhelming in comparison to the Initial like impact that one had. I think.
Speaker 3:Black Panther. Wakanda forever had a very unique Circumstance, right where it's like what do we do now?
Speaker 1:It's not that it wasn't, you know, acceptable. Hmm.
Speaker 1:It definitely was. But I felt that that issue of loss, it set the tone of that movie. I felt that that the entirety of that movie was, i guess, in a sense, the process of grieving someone. Yeah, it was, loss is what we were dealing with and I felt that they painted that very specifically But it impacted a lot of, like the action sequences, some of the acting. I felt that subject matter, like the introduction of the iron heart character, right, yeah, i didn't enjoy it. The armor that the door of Milaje end up using at the end. Angela Bassett in Start comparison, she did great pain, she deserved an Oscar. Out was the pain was the, grieving was the. We felt the loss of a mother, yeah, and she made us feel that and it was almost Overwhelming. It was real fucking emotion and it was amazing. There was certain details within that movie that I felt, just in for every two steps They took, it took a step back.
Speaker 1:Yeah there were just certain things that fell very flat. I thought it took away from that movie.
Speaker 3:I think I could respect that opinion overall, though for me comparative, or comparing that to the likes of Dr Strange, comparing that to the likes of Thor that we had in the same phase I felt Thor.
Speaker 1:Yeah and I, and I said it and you know, shout out to the boy and hobby in the The call in episode that I had with them it. Well, and now in recent like statements, i think they've even said like hey, it was just goofy.
Speaker 3:I mean, yeah, even Chris Hemsworth said that like okay, yeah, i don't. I don't want that to be, Thor I didn't want to miss quote that.
Speaker 1:But yes, there was like a general. The general consensus was like hey, like yeah, we didn't do a good job do.
Speaker 3:This guy in the comics right now is popping off and it's like you're telling me that He is like this goofy Character that we're getting now and it's like why we don't want to laugh with Thor. We have other characters for that. We want to feel like Thor. Is this, you know, bad-ass Norse God, just like he was. I mean, i don't know if you saw like the playthroughs for a god of war, ragnarok, mm-hmm, oh yeah, super good depiction of Thor, great depiction of Thor, and it's like why can't we get that? We got that in Avengers, right, and then they saw in what was it the sec? was it Thor Ragnarok?
Speaker 1:The thing with Ragnarok was that had a good mix. It definitely Like not to take away from Tycho with TD, because he did an amazing job on that first venture. Yeah, he did great. And then it took like a left turn. Yeah at Whatever the fuck that was that was, and it's unfortunate and It's something that I've talked about with the nomad as well. You know, in the past these were storylines that were like this based on the source material, were fucking amazing.
Speaker 3:Dude gore had the potential and they had Christian bail.
Speaker 1:They had gore the god butcher, because gore was like on another level within source material, and I feel as he didn't reach that potential.
Speaker 3:He didn't. He could have been a big like bad for a whole phase. He could have broken through that.
Speaker 1:That whole phase in itself like to not to speak on it at length. But the introduction of gore the god butcher within the source material, with introducing Noel the symbiote God, that's all crazy shit that happens within these arcs and we made a fucking comedy, you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's unfortunate and and here's like that, going back to that, you just brought up Noel, right. And then you brought up this whole like multiversal thing, like, is it good? Is it bad? it has a potential to be really good. Like, say, thor went a different route, or it just introduces God or a gore the God butcher. It introduces Noel because that's obviously his sword, right. Then you have a way to bring in venom. You have a way to add that into the multiverse and now make it canon, but instead you add it in a goofy ass way where he's in cancun or wherever the fuck he is and it's like you have so many opportunities but yet you're sacrificing that for, or Laughs, when you could have this like really cool plot, this really cool story, like you used to have.
Speaker 3:And it's like where did that go? like I think about, like backwards, like endgame. To me is still like that was the end of my enjoyment of Marvel, like my genuine enjoyment of Marvel, because that brought in so much. And it's like they did like the multiverse right. Or it's like, yeah, if you move this piece, it messes up this piece over here and you have the potential to split the whatever. It's like, okay, you're doing it right, but now it's like what's going on? the only way that I feel like this is still somewhat okay is the fact that Loki is still in the mix from his show and They have Kang now, and which I don't even know if they have Kang now we might, we might not even have Namer.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he got caught up too. Huh Well, i mean he denies it, but I mean we don't know any of that. We don't know, yeah, we don't know, and I feel like that's been happening on a lot more recently.
Speaker 1:It's happened to a lot of people a lot of this shit has been happening lately with you know People from all facets of like different industries.
Speaker 3:I mean, you see that, did you see the Conor McGregor thing? John, moran, john.
Speaker 1:Moran, what's My boy that's fucking hooping. That was riding around with like a fucking.
Speaker 3:Zion Yep. Zion Williamson. Oh my god, they said that they're gonna do a documentary with cuz. They came out with the same, in the same draft, class Zion and John, and they're gonna title it guns and buns.
Speaker 1:We're living in Tumultuous times weird.
Speaker 3:I mean, if all this stuff did happen, i mean, yeah, bring it to light and like, expose it and bring them to justice. But I feel really bad for the people that are like it's just for like, fame, notoriety, whatever it is. I don't know, we'll see what happens with majors and, yeah, no sugar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what do you feel about the contrast between animated films and live-action films and the idea that the Emotions that are that are invoked in between both types of film or, i guess, the way that we consume them, because you could easily Say the same thing about animation, like a like a series.
Speaker 3:I love it, dude, i love. I love both or both modalities. I think me Growing up I was more like I grew up watching animated stuff, whether it was cartoons, whether it was anime, that's just what I watched, that's when my parents put on for me and that's just what I leaned more towards. And growing up, playing video games. Obviously, that's all animated whatever. But I love the real stuff.
Speaker 3:Right, i know that there are people out there, though, that feel like animated stuff just isn't as good because it doesn't portray, it doesn't show real human emotion. But for me, consuming media has always been do I enjoy it? Am I getting some sense of Fulfillment, satisfaction watching this? I don't care about Critics. I make my own critique on whatever it is I'm watching and if I walk out of a theater, if I Turn on a show and I turn it off and I feel good about myself, that's what matters to me. I don't care about like.
Speaker 3:Is it animated, is it not? is it real? is it actually depicting people? or are you watching Freakin Monsters Inc. Where these are all fantastical beings that you know it is what it is? or you have the mix of Like, live action and animation, like a fantastic beast right from the Harry Potter universe. It's like, obviously you have these fantastical creatures. Or like Game of Thrones, where you have the dragons and stuff and then you have the real people. It's like it's bringing both together, showing that they could coexist. I don't lean more towards one than the other, but I do find myself watching more animated films or animated stuff, but that's because it's mostly shows and that's really all I have time for shows. It's just what I lean more towards in terms of what I have time for, not what I prefer.
Speaker 1:I think there is a very gray area for me because I I think that within Animation you can do a lot more. The biggest example that I've said before is I feel the Harry Potter Would be amazing as a long-form animated. You know medium They are because within the books There's so much more context and detail and you can use that. And I feel as though you know You animate them and you progressively make them. I mean, maybe not in this way, but you make them progressively just darker in tone and you know you Differentiate, like the animation style, as, like, the seasons go on or as you know the volumes go on.
Speaker 1:It just adds to the you know kind of the sequential way that everything moves right. I think a lot more can be done with animation. Obviously, we have the freedom to do Whatever you want to do whatever you want.
Speaker 3:I've watched films or live action stuff where I'm like shoot dude, like that hits hard, like in the most recent Guardians, that Goat wrenching scream, that rocket gives out dude. I felt that yeah, he's animated, but it's live action.
Speaker 1:It's the portrayal of a real entity, because Rocket obviously is. he's an animal, but he's also Not well.
Speaker 3:Okay, then let me give you this as an example Angela Bassett Yes.
Speaker 3:Bearing yeah, it invokes that same intensity. But I think it's easier to show that in animation in terms of like, because you have the freedom and the liberty of doing whatever you want with it, whereas live action you have to let a well-trained, talented actor or actress do that And I feel like without them it's hard to get that same feeling, because I don't get that from watching. I don't know The Flash. I'm not talking about the movie that just came out. I'm talking about like the show, like cool it's The Flash. The Flash is cool, but I don't feel any type of way towards it.
Speaker 3:So nothing against the actor in The Flash, but it's just he's not that great of an actor and maybe it's just not that great of a plot. Not nothing like. I said not him, but it's just the source material is not as great. I think. For me it's just invoking that intensity, i think bringing it back like full circle. You couldn't do that with any type of medium. I just think it's preference. I know some people don't like that kind of stuff, but I would say be open to it, because otherwise you're missing a whole section of good media in a time where that's kind of lacking maybe.
Speaker 3:In my opinion.
Speaker 1:I feel like as consumers right now, especially with the multitude of services that there are and kind of like that proverbial, like one upsmanship of like well we have this We have the gold membership, we have the ad free, you know whatever This series is doing fucking amazing over here exclusively. I think that these businesses it's not so much like making a good product, but it's like what will people buy into?
Speaker 3:That is good enough, you know, and it's crazy because how long has the office been out? for Years People will get a peacock subscription just to re-watch something that's been out for years and they know that. We're probably like, oh man, like they're dumb for doing that, they're done for removing it from Netflix and putting it on their own thing or whatever. They are smart for doing that and we're the dumb ones for buying into it. I'm not calling anyone listening to this dumb per se, but it's just. It's crazy that we are that easily influenced to just consume.
Speaker 1:Put it in like, uh, like weeb terms for that little bit that Disney Plus said we're gonna buy the exclusive rights to the Bleach Thousand Year Blood War. If you want to watch it, you gotta get Disney Plus, but I only have crunchy roll. Sucks to suck, sucks to be you right, i think it. Just it boils down to business now.
Speaker 3:I think it's just it's up to the person to determine what's valuable to them and what's not. I would just encourage people to not be easily influenced by these companies that just want you to take, take, take and then you're just giving up all your finances, unless you got it like that. I mean Unless you got it like that, but I do not have it like that, so I will stick to what I have.
Speaker 4:Everyone knows, at the end of the day, there's only going to be like three screaming services and they don't give a fuck how good anything is. Butters, i think you've had too many popsicles. Yeah, i think maybe I had one too many popsicles.
Speaker 1:Well, I appreciate you Likewise. What are you currently watching?
Speaker 3:reading. Playing. Playing Cyberpunk. Watching Cyberpunk. Playing Diablo 4. Really good, amazing ratings at the gate. It's the fastest selling Blizzard game of all time. I think it's 6.6 million within the first week. Playing that, watching that I'm about to watch the Black Clover movie right now, when we get out of here Watching Demon Slayer and trying to keep current with that. I know the last episode comes out this Sunday, but I'm like five episodes behind.
Speaker 1:So like the whole fucking season.
Speaker 3:No, maybe. I don't know how many episodes are in the season. Reading has slowed down, but the last book I was reading was Song of Achilles. Aside from that, i don't think much else. I think that's it right now. That's it. What about you?
Speaker 1:I am watching a lot of short films on YouTube. Please, i encourage anyone who has some time on their hands to dip their toe into that world of independent film, especially on YouTube, because it's so accessible to everybody.
Speaker 3:You know what I just realized? I realized that indie films stand for independent films.
Speaker 1:Good for you. So I'm definitely doing that a lot of YouTube. But Demon Slayer as well, i'm not reading, but you know, audible, shout out Audible. Joey Diaz autobiography came out. It's fucking amazing. It hits you even harder that it's him telling his own story and him speaking on like certain events the way he does. It's just it adds to like how candid and how like emotional they are. I don't know. I'm just here surviving, hey, living.
Speaker 3:You know, I'm trying.
Speaker 1:Hopefully this builds into more episodes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, let's plan for it. It was fun.
Speaker 1:Shout out to you, for you know getting me out of the house. You know we're fine, we have a link tree, all our links and social media, and Shout out to.
Speaker 3:Germany, man.
Speaker 1:Hey, shout out to Germany for keeping us fucking afloat. Y'all are the real ones. I know. Shout out you, my boy. Yeah, i'm the elder, he's HD. Anyway, see you later.